Creationism Rapes Good Science
September 28th, 2005 by uncledexterityThis is a link that explains carbon dating in, as is indicated by the name of the link i’m sure, a scientific manner.
http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae403.cfm
This is a link that explains carbon dating from a creationist viewpoint as, again, i’m sure you can gather from the name of the link.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c007.html
The interesting thing to note though, is that much of what the two sites say concerning how carbon dating works is the same.
However, some things jumped out at me while reading the article written by a creationist and i’ve quoted them here:
"People wonder how millions of years could be squeezed into the biblical account of history. Clearly, such huge time periods cannot be fitted into the Bible without compromising what the Bible says…It makes no sense at all if man appeared at the end of billions of years."
- I think this quote shows the goal of this website. I thought perhaps they were going to explain
that it is still possible for these to coexist if you take this passage to be figurative rather than
literal. But when I clicked on the link titled "Six Days? Honestly!",
(http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c011.html)
I found that they actually believe in the literal sense of the creation story. In other words, that the
world was created in a mere six days and that one can trace the genealogies in the Bible (all those begats) to figure out how old the world is. There is definitely an agenda behind this. I doubt very highly that the scientific community has some anti-God agenda. They just follow the facts. After all, if an experiment were able to be proven wrong, someone would jump all over it so that they might get the credit for disproving the experiment.
"However, things are not quite so simple. First, plants discriminate against carbon dioxide containing 14C. That is, they take up less than would be expected and so they test older than they really are. Furthermore, different types of plants discriminate differently. This also has to be corrected for.[2]"
-There’s a lot that’s funny about this paragraph, and i don’t mean funny ha ha. First the part about plants discriminating against carbon dioxide containing 14C. Compare that to what the scientific website says:
"Now living plants ‘breathe’ CO2 indiscriminately (they don’t care about isotopes one way or the other), and so (while they are living) they have the same ratio of carbon 14 in them as the atmosphere."
It’s almost as if the creationist website took the scientific quote and took the letters "in" out of the
word "indiscriminately". These two statements are in direct contrast. This is a problem obviously. Who should one believe? I’m sure you already know who I believe, but consider this. Take a look at the end of that quote. There’s a bracketed 2. That serves as a footnote. I thought, ok, now I’m going to see where this information came from, or perhaps there will be something clarifying this further. When you click on the "2" (or scroll down the page to the footnote section) it says, "Today, a stable carbon isotope, 13C, is measured as an indication of the level of discrimination against 14C." First of all, carbon is stable as carbon 12, not carbon 13. I’ll let that slide as being a typo, however, this is not the main issue i have with this footnote. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think this footnote really had anything to do with that particular paragraph. I’m going to venture a guess as to why this footnote is actually there, since it obviously doesn’t serve to clarify anything, nor does it show where they got this "fact". I would guess that most people who see a footnote don’t look the footnote up, or if they do, they forget what it is they were just reading and are only reminded of it when they read the footnote. This looks like a misdirection tactic to me. If you don’t bother looking at the footnote, its mere presence lends the paragraph some authority. When you see a footnote, you tend to assume that what you just read is quoted from another source, thus lending it some credence. Obviously, the footnote does nothing of the sort, but even I assumed that’s what the footnote was there for. However, as you can see, the footnote doesn’t even relate to the paragraph! This really looks like misdirection to me. It’s as if they’re trying really hard to make this report look like a scholarly paper by adding footnotes. Again, the report looks quite scholarly and is lacking any glaring grammatical errors. I don’t think this is a mistake. I think this is an intentional device used to make their case look stronger. And the sad thing is, i bet it usually works. For me, though, it tore a big gaping hole in their credibility. That’s why i believe the version explained by the other website.
"Anything over about 50,000 years old, should theoretically have no detectable 14C left. That is why radiocarbon dating cannot give millions of years. In fact, if a sample contains 14C, it is good evidence that it is not millions of years old."
- I don’t know where they got this figure, but the other website disagrees. It says, "This technique is best for dating items which died between on the order of 1000 to on the order of 1,000,000 years ago. Carbon 14 dating is not great for dating things like a year old because if much less than 1 half-life has passed, barely any of the carbon 14 has decayed, and it is difficult to measure the difference in rates and know with certainty the time involved. On the other hand, if tons of half-lives have passed, there is almost none of the sample carbon 14 left, and it is really hard to measure accurately how much is left." The only other thing to say about this quote is that the evidence of carbon 14 in a sample is not necessarily evidence of something NOT being millions of years old. It is either evidence that scientists lucked out in finding a very large sample size of what they’re testing, or the sample has become contaminated.
To see unbiased science so twisted to fit into someone’s belief system is grotesque.